Thursday, 23 July 2009

Why Science Will Never Accept God


Amidst all the clamour of the science/religion debates, one persistently hears the accusation from the religious camp that scientists do not want to believe in God.

Scientists, claim the believers, are being obdurate – they have decided to shut their minds to God’s existence and would stretch their theories to any length to avoid the possibility of divine involvement. Is there any truth to this ?

On casual inspection, the claim is patently false. There are any number of scientists who have produced excellent work while being devoutly religious. And to my knowledge, there is no stricture against scientists holding religious and/or supernatural beliefs. Humans hold all kinds of personal beliefs and scientists are no exception.

However, the accusation begs a deeper question. Namely, is the scientific method itself incompatible with God? Or, in other words, can God ever be a valid scientific hypothesis?
I think the answer to the latter is No.

To begin my argument, science works by making careful observation
s of nature and framing hypotheses to explain those observations. The hypotheses are then used to make further predictions which are then tested by observation and experiment.

This is admittedly a gross simplification of the scientific method, and in reality, the scientific enterprise does not proceed in a linear fashion. Guesses, prejudices and misunderstandings abound. Theories are ignored on first publication or dismissed by prominent scientists, only to resurface decades later and gain prominence. However, for the purposes of our argument, the observation- hypothesis-testing model of the scientific method suffices.

Now to begin with, there is no observational evidence for God, of course, or this whole debate would be moot. So we need to ask if God can be a good scientific hypothesis. Indeed most theist-atheist arguments traditionally start with, “What made the universe?”

So: Observation: Universe, Hypothesis: God, Test: ????

This is the point where the problem arises. An unwritten rule in science is Occam’s razor – We choose the simplest possible hypothesis to explain a given fact. In accordance with this, the basic ingredients in scientific models are as elementary as possible.

For example in physics, the typical entities in models are particles and fields, - mathematical constructs whose behaviour is completely described by a handful of numbers. For all the intimidating math in theoretical physics, the models contain nothing remotely as complex as even a virus!

Now let’s take a look at God.

God is the Supreme Being, “omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient” according to the Abrahamic religions, “ the infinite, immanent and transcendent reality which is the Divine Ground of all matter, energy, time, space, being, and everything beyond” according to Hinduism.

Very impressive indeed, but from a scientific viewpoint, extremely problematic!
Such a being is the polar opposite of simple and elementary. In fact, almost by definition, this is the most complex entity that can ever be hypothesized in a model. Thus, by Occam’s razor, every possible alternative should be considered before suggesting God as an explanation. On an infinitely long list of conceivable explanations for a phenomenon, God would be right at the bottom !

So much for Occam’s razor. How about predictive power?

If God is your hypothesis, what’s the prediction? Well, everything - after all, there’s nothing an all-powerful being can’t do. And nothing - because His Omnipotence is certainly not obliged to do anything! Thus, the God hypothesis produces no testable predictions.

Awe inspiring and humbling though the idea of God may be, as a scientific hypothesis it is useless.

So if God is no good as a hypothesis, how about a proof by observation? Once again, trickier than it seems.

Certainly, it is possible that we may observe supernatural phenomena, though none have been documented to date with any credibility. Water turning into wine, or people walking on water, or statues drinking milk for instance. These would be completely contrary to our current understanding of the world, and scientists would be forced to admit that ‘something else’ was at work. But even so, how would we know this was God, the Supreme Being, in action and not some more mundane creature, such as a genie or an asura?
Similarly, even if we had incontrovertible evidence that our universe was intelligently designed, how would we know it is the Mind of God that designed it? Maybe it’s just an alien schoolboy in a metaverse which was itself sneezed out by the great green Arklesnoozer in a meta-metaverse and so on.

In some ways, this is akin to the problem of figuring out if the universe is infinite or just really large. We can keep going and always finding more, but it can still be that the end is just beyond our horizon....

So, where does all this leave us? Not, I think, with the conclusion that science has disproved God, as some may claim. In fact, from what I just said, science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, because the God hypothesis makes no testable predictions. But since science is the best way we know of producing reliable, objective knowledge, it is unclear how we can ever resolve the issue.

For this same reason, God will never be part of an attempted scientific explanation of anything, though people may, and will, of course continue to believe in Her for other reasons.

All I can say is that, to date, we have succeeded in explaining all observed phenomena within the framework of elementary entities behaving according to elegant mathematical laws. It is possible that these laws were designed by a transcendent intelligence beyond the universe. But this is by no means inevitable, or the only possibility.

Furthermore, there is no way to scientifically test claims about beings beyond the universe, since all our observations and experiments are necessarily confined within it.

So, this may be a good time to invoke the eminently sensible proverb, “Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we should remain silent.


12 comments:

  1. Its not necessary that science and relegion exist in silos...as u hv mentioned at one place even deeplyy relegios scientists hv come out with gr8 scientific work..what needs to be seen however is how can the two be amalgamated to get the best for humankind..and the best example of this is the setting up of India's first space research center in Thumba, Kerela where it took Dr. Vikram Sarabhai's scientific vision and the father of the local church's exponents to see India where we r today !!

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  2. Its not necessary that science and relegion exist in silos..what needs to be seen however is how can the two be amalgamated to get the best for humankind
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    Some would question whether there needs to be an amalgamation at all.
    It is true that religion is a source of support and solace for millions of people around the world. But its also a big source of division, and has been so historically.

    Now, one reason differences in religious belief are impossible to resolve is that there's no way at all to test the claims (part of what I say in my post).

    I wonder whether we can't come up with a worldview that provides the support that religions give, but based on concrete evidence backed by science.

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  3. ur points are absolutely valid.. but then the fact is ppl who understand relegion wouldnt use it for division.. it becomes a source of division because of the multiple misinterpretations... for ex: among the oldest of sages in India there were women... and even the vedas and upanishads all given women a status equal to men..but is that followed..I wud say no..not because relegion says it but because how we hav interpreted it.. the views that relegion presents accordingly are certainly testable..not in the laboratories but with the population at large...we just need the right interpretation..for ex: if we interpret the vedas rightly and give women the equal status we can certainly c positive results..and i beleive even science would agree to the same thing..isnt it ?

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  4. Well, ironically, science has nothing to say about the equality of men and women - in the sense of whether men and women should be given equal rights and opportunities in society. The scientific method is designed to examine how things are, not how they ought to be.

    But I get your drift. It's certainly true that religions contain a lot of good ideas, many bad ones and some which are outright barbaric - and which one is implemented depends on who's head honcho of the tribe.

    However, let me push this a bit further.
    As you say, reading through the Upanishads, one gets the impression that men and women were possibly accorded equal status in society.
    OTOH, the Manu Smriti, also a revered religious text, underlines the subservience of women plus much unpleasantness about lower castes.

    Now most rational people today would support the Upanishadic attitude as opposed to Manu Smriti.
    But this suggests that they ALREADY have a sense of which way they'd prefer society to move, which is why they can self-select which religious edict to follow and which one to ignore.

    In that case, do we really NEED to parse and debate and endlessly interpret religious texts to get appropriate social and ethical guidance ?
    Why can't we just figure it out ourselves ?

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  5. I think that in some ways some of the Upanishads try to distill the essence of ethics and give it a theoretical backbone.

    Interesting points (and I think spot-on) about why science cannot accept gods. I'm thinking I'll make a blogpost with my thoughts about the relationship between science and truth. I think there are a huge number of angles to this science/truth/god issue. I remember reading a philosophy article that said viewed some ways, inference (as in valid conclusions from observed data) isn't really possible. I'll have to dig it up.

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  6. Very well written, AS. My neck is paining from constant nodding.

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  7. Bekaar BokBok:

    Ok, so I finally hammered out my version of science vs. truth; check it out: Science and Truth Essentially what we discussed offline: I say that science and god are orthogonal; science needn't say anything about god and religion needn't say anything about science. Of course, the problem is that in this world, neither can leave the other alone!

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  8. Well written (and thought). However, a few things come to mind:

    1. Observations are key to forming and testing hypotheses in science. It is not clear that (the effect of) God can be observed through physical phenomena. Ultimately the experience of God that homo sapiens claim to feel is generally taken to be outside the realm of the 5 senses. Ergo, it can be explained away as some chemical surge in the brain born of a need for happiness/ security/ escapism. Science does not know enough about this particular sensor to be able to verify its observations. A bit of a quantum quandry to keep the observer out of the equation as well.

    2. On the discussion in the thread of comments -

    a. It is usually understood that religion is not spirituality, but more importantly, religion is not God. Religion can and does damage society. Saying the same of God demands an acceptance of rationality and accountability of that which we purport not to understand.

    b. Beg to differ on the claim that the Vedas hold men and women in equal light. They don't. However, they were a far sight better (in light of modern ethics) than what followed. The Vedanta largely does not concern itself with social problems. The Upanishads, IMHO, are works of philosophy rather than theology; they focus on what is and not on what is right.

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  9. Very well written... the ones who know choose not to speak since the experience of the divine apparently cannot be communicated - it can only be felt (even if it be through some potent chemical concoctions in our nervous wiring system)

    On the other hand, if one has felt the touch of the divine and it's resulting bliss there is this urge within to communicate the experience in some form or the other. And that is where poets and saints like Vyasa, Valmiki, Shankaracharya, Kabir, Tagore have done much to further this cause.

    To quote Tagore "That words have meaning is just the difficulty. That is why the poet has to turn and twist them in metre and verse, so that the meaning can be held somewhat in check, and the feeling allowed a chance to express itself"

    The day Indian wisdom got documented - Shruti got converted to Smriti - much was gained, and much more lost...

    It is upto us to discover it anew.

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  10. But science accepts God!!

    http://www.realtruth.org/articles/070601-006-teog.html

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  11. Alas, every single one of the "arguments" on that website collapse under scrutiny.

    For example, here's an analysis of the 'Evolution Violates Second Law of Thermodynamics' argument:

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/11/entropy_and_evolution.php

    But more importantly, what I am saying is that
    "Current scientific theory does not explain X" DOES NOT imply "Hence, God exists".
    Take another look at that part about why the God is a hopeless hypothesis.

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  12. Science is that which can be validated by the senses / sensory organs.
    The experience of God lies beyond (be in the subconscious/superconscious).
    QED

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